SMLtalk Video: Emmett Bleiler

[youtube] Emmett Bleiler is 17, lives on Cape Cod, and can be most often found at Falmouth Skatepark, a prefab park turned DIY. He is currently (in 2014) rocking a flip phone, so you won't find him on Facebook or Instagram, but when you do find him, he'll either be hucking an air, eating shit, talking shit, or building some unskateable extension at his park. He also smith grinded the fence at JP park, which we all know isn't actually possible.

On a scale of salmon shorts to Wellfleet oysters, how much do you love Cape Cod?

I love it and hate it. A lot of uptight fucks around here, very few skaters, and really expensive food. But it's sick because its low key, all the spots are crusty and the summers are nice.

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Describe Falmouth skatepark.

Prefab park located at trotting park field off Gifford st. We lucked out the most on prefab, I've seen the other ones around new england and they're shit. We got good mixing with the crete and made some more stuff like extensions and extra trannys. But I've been skating Falmouth park for 10 years and I love it, it's crusty as fuck and the sessions are going down daily.

What’s your least favorite thing about modern day skateboarding?

It's turned into all social media, bangers are leaked, and everyone's hyping themselves up through their own videos/photos. Save it for an edit. Fuck your throwback footage. The hype isn't real when it's on Instagram.

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Brandon Turner or Brandon Biebel?

Turner for sure. Those switch crooks.

Wow. Ok. Would you rather lose your ability to skate fakie/switch, or lose your ability to grab tucknee?

I'll lose the tucknee. Fuck a tucknee nosebones are better.

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If you had to be on one form of social media, what would it be?

Probably that new anonymous twitter I've been hearing about, only to meet freaky bitches.

...who gets you psyched on skating these days?

Those Pstone videos, Cro Mags, Slayer and Cardiel footage.

Trick you wish you had?

Switch frontside ollie above coping and lien airs.

Shout outs?

Yeah Matt Hogan, LT, Jack Emberg, Ebreeze, Al, and all of the FSP homies. Come get some if your down for the crust.

For more info on Emmett contact us at or visit him yourself at Falmouth Skatepark.

Contributing Filmers: Matt Hogan, Emmet Breslin

Photos: Rob Collins

Interview: Dave Lewis

SMLtalk with: Pat Smith


Pat Smith, Sweeper - Photo: Paco

Pat Smith is an east coast legend, all-terrain ripper, bandana wearer, and owner of CODA Skateboards. He is often compared (by me) to Phil Shao (RIP).  Having been in the game for over 2 decades, he’s demonstrated an undying passion for this little thing we call skateboarding.

Ok so before we get into anything about you, it recently came up that your friend, and Orchard Skateshop owner, Bro Gumpright, used to rock the visor beanie. How do you feel about that?

Broderick has done so much for the scene that he can basically wear whatever he wants. We back him so if he wanted to start razor skooting, then I guess we would have to start making scooters.

Alright, so which scumbag city are you from? Judging by your spot selection, I know you’re from one. Philly...Baltimore?

Grew up outside of Baltimore for a lot of my youth. I have family in NYC so I would be there for the summers, Baltimore and DC all the time.  I Always had the passion to search out or make new things. When the buds got to driving age, it was on. We would go everywhere. But we spent a lot of time exploring the small towns we all grew up in.

Big shout out to Lansdowne Skatepark.

Out of the VHS era, what are the videos that had the biggest impact on you and your skating?

I really like Real’s Non-fiction and the first two Stereo vids, Future Primitive and Animal Chin were classics and Blind Video Days was the game changer.

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Don’t mean to jump over your time with Real or anything before that, but the part in Label Kills where you skate to Alternative Ulster. What was it like filming for that video? I mean that video’s no joke, classic parts from Grosso, and Wade Speyer himself...had to have been intimidating.  

I was already older and had met those guys on my travels. I hated Cali. Not so much anymore, but back then, I hated going there. I was super motivated after blowing out my knee, so much so that I was a prick to people. Dont be a prick to people. I was punk so that shit never made me more uncomfortable than I already am. I am really honored to be a part of that vid. I was one of the only people that got to pick my own song! Wes Lott said I didn't have any hammers, now I give him boards once in a while.

Pat Smith - Label Kills


There were a lot of pros in the late 90s/early 2000s that sort of wrote off transition skating. Even when people were doing it, most weren’t really doing it well. What drew you to it?

Just the desire to skate everything that was there. I started at the end of the vert ramp era so our dads would take us to the local ramps. We had some minis and stuff because we had yards. Ramps in the driveway. It just stuck. We would try to skate everything because it was all riding your skateboard and super fun.

I actually remember seeing you at Hardware City Skatepark in New Britain, Connecticut. Not sure if you remember that park, but that’s where I’M from… anyway... I think you were skating for 151 at this time. It was nice. Not really a question, just wanted to get that out there.

Oh that was a trip with my Bodega buds and some other friends. I remember getting to Boston and a bunch of us were just over it, got 30 beers and hopped on a bus back to NYC. We got wasted and went through happy drunk, to “love you brother” drunk, to everyone passed out. Pretty fun trip overall.

Oh also - true story, you inspired me to get my first and only mohawk, which my mom was super bummed on. Do you feel like you owe my mom an apology?

Nah, your mom owes you an apology for not supporting you to learn your own mistakes. I have a bad hawk going now. It actually just looks like a shitty mullet.

Mom, if you're reading this, I'm waiting. 

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Your part in the Pit Crew video was kind of the standout one for me, to be honest. The footage in the Autumn bowl (RIP), damn, and it was set to Fortunate Son. Did you pick the song, because it couldn’t have been more perfect.

I have always picked my songs. I liked that part and that video. Shout out to Mark Nickels and the Pit Crew family. They have had my back for years. To be included in a project like that is an honor.


Speaking of Pit Crew, is Bobby going to get SOTY 2014?

He is my favorite right now. Him or Cory Kennedy. Nike will buy it again this year for sure.

A couple of us at SMLtalk HQ were talking, and we were wondering what the secret is. Why is it that you are able to pull off the bandana, and guys like Pat “Sinner” Pasquale end up looking like fools?

I just do what I want mostly, I am used to looking like a fool. I don't know, it was holding my hippy hair out of my face.


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So with CODA it seems that you have had a knack for finding dudes that are absolutely killing it, but are relatively under the radar. Jay Burton, Max Palmer, Dylan James. Even the man, Bro Gumpright, himself. What’s the strategy there? You got scouts?

The thing about those guys is that they are amazing people. Maybe we tricked them with all the money we make? I think its the support of letting them do as much or as little as they want that keep them into CODA.

Opinion on skating today?

Yeah, I think will try to get some grinds in.

What’s in store for the future with CODA?

Just keep growing, get better at sales and slow down my life so I can focus on it more. It's out of control.

Shout outs?

The team

The family

Pit Crew


Prize fighter Wheels

Ryan and Chopper at Vans.

Edwin for facilitating a space for a winter training facility.

Interview by: David Lewis

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SMLtalk With: Rob Collins


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Rob. Where to begin? You just turned 21. That’s nice.

Hi David! Yeah I did! I’ve been 21 since I was 17 so its really not that exciting. I guess it is pretty nice to not have to worry about using a fake ID anymore. When I was first getting into the bar I was so nervous so I would get really drunk, be an idiot, and fall asleep in my room with all the lights on (ask Mola about that one) but since then I’ve realized the bar can be cool but gets expensive and there are a lot of morons there. I'd prefer to sit on our couch and watch Seinfeld or another quality program.

People generally know you for your camera work, but when they meet you and actually see you skate, are they surprised at how pale your skin is?

Haha, I usually get the "do you ever get tan?" And the answer is... Sometimes. When my sun burn goes away I'm left a little darker than before.


Are you happy?


You can backside noseblunt on ledges. Must be nice.

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That wasn’t much of a question but i can pull one out of my ass every now and again. This whole weight gaining thing is really taking a toll on my skating.

What’s your favorite photo that you have shot so far?

That's a tough one. I'd have to say the one of Ray Barbee playing his guitar and smiling. I'm also a big fan of Lee 50-50ing the back of a truck with the people walking by. Sometimes you really do get lucky.


Why do you listen to Seinfeld when you are having sex, and what do the chicks think?

Seinfeld and Sex, my two vices… I don’t want to answer that.

You and your brother just traveled around the country, what was the best part?

The best part was skating in San Francisco. SF is a truly amazing place with so much awesome skating and architecture there. It's my favorite place I've ever been.

The other best part was to see Paul and the locals ripping each park. The scene in some cities is really crazy. There were a few parks that had some rippers that looked like they just went back to school shopping at Zumiez.

Fuck one, marry one, kill one, Coakley/Greenwood/Berman.

Ah man that's really good.

Definitely Kill Greenwood.

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Marry Coakley.

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and Fuck you Berms.

Wait, weren’t either you or Paul in one of the Toy Machine videos? What’s that all about?

Haha. I have no clue how you found out about that. I can't remember if I was in the video but I know Paul had a clip at the very end of the video wearing a visor and a shark tooth necklace. I’m almost positive my mom went up to the filmer and asked him to film Paul, so he asked who his favorite skater was and in the highest pitched 7 year old voice Paul said “Ed Templeton”.


So you’re unemployed. What’s your plan?

That’s right baby. I’m really happy about it. Being laid off is one of the coolest things to ever happen to me. At first I was like “fuck man, what am I going to do? I’m fucked.” But then I drove all the way across the country and back and that kind of opened my eyes a bit. There’s a whole world out there! I can do anything I want right now. My plan as of now is to stay in Boston for a bit and see if I can make something happen there. If not, probably head to New York or SF. I guess only time will tell….

Shout outs?

Of course. My main man and roommate Dave Lewis along with the rest of the 30 Mozart posse – All the SMLTalk boyz – Mom and Dad (although I really hope they’re not reading this) – Paul of course – Coaks, Berms, Burke, Duane, All of my friends that I’ve made along the way – Anyone who has let me shoot them – Everyone @ Theory, Orchard, Vans, Lowcard, Focus. Thanks for the interview Dave ---- Cheers!!!!

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SMLtalk with: Cooper Winterson


Cooper Winterson is a real humble guy who is very skilled behind, and also in front of the lens. He lives in New York, and can lazer flip first try, in glasses. If you ever see him, ask him to do it. cooper interview feature

Do people often confuse you with Cooper Wilt?

CW: Who did you think this interview was with?

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From now on I am calling you Cooper Wilterson by the way.

CW: Where are you getting this extra “erson” from?

How would you describe your skate style?

CW: Well I skate for almost so it’s like goofy tech

How would you describe your filming style?

CW: I haven’t really filmed a part since almost round 3 I don’t think, wait who am I again?

What’s your favorite song?

CW: Breathe-Prodigy aka Rune Glifberg’s song in sorry in which Jesse [Alba] makes a dope appearance

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Which Chris Cole clothing phase speaks to you most?

CW: Late 90’s really baggy “I’m at love but I don’t really fit it” phase. Second would be the yellow camo phase.


What’s the hardest thing about being a blonde haired kid with glasses? Does it affect your skating?

CW: Trying to skate down the street when you keep getting flooded with ladies.

They say New York is the ‘Big Apple’, did they name it after the apple at LES?

CW: I think it’s actually a red plum because there’s no stem anymore.

What is the best trick you’ve ever done over that Apple (The Big Apple[red plum])?

CW: Nollie shuv duhhh


Cooper skating at LES park

Did you know that Corey Rubin was in my cabin at woodward in 2009? Pretty cool, right?

Weren’t you his counselor? But hasn’t he been a director since he was 12 anyway?


Corey Rubin at Chelsea Piers Park

He skated a lot of vert. His parents were very nice.

CW: Trying to get him to go to Riverside and get down on the full pad blue vert game.

Who do you look up to for filming inspiration?

CW: Ronnie Dings & Matt and Gene

What are you working on right now?

CW: Some ultimate #goon shit.

When are we gonna skate?

CW: When I go to my dad’s and skate Groton park, maybe we’ll see another kid get arrested (;


Cooper's \m/ video, featuring militano, sage, ben, genesis, jesse and everyone else. 

Shout outs? CW: Big shouts to Leland and Dully on your end :)

SMLtalk with: Dillon Buss



Kickflip Backside Noseblunt - Photo: Trevor Denman

Dillon Buss is a skateboarder living in Cambridge, MA. His hobbies include art, filmmaking and eating snacks.

DL: You ready for the first small talk interview?

DB: Sure! I’m driving so I might be a little bit spacey.


“…but skating the horse was the coolest thing I saw in the video.”

Let’s skip the basic questions and get right to it, the Orchard video (Stone Soup) just came out, who's part are you most hyped on? My favorite part was Fritz’s part because he skates on a horse. He skates a horse. He does a foot plant off of a horse and it’s funny cause you can see the whole carriage move and you can kind of see the horse in that first shot. Then the horse moves and you’re like “dude he just foot planted off of a horse!” Then in the next clip BA BAM front board from out of a bowl, off the carriage onto a little nugget piece of concrete and drop down. Fritz’s part is incredible because I know him as an artist, and just knowing that he built his own house out of found wood, almost like a little hobbit hole, in Brooklyn underneath a bowl. He paints really brilliant surrealist oil paintings as well. So knowing that and then to see that he is also blasting down an 8 stair rail that kinks and gaps off of another four stair, that was just mind blowing to me. He skates the way that he wants to skate, and it just happens to be super gnarly…but skating the horse was the coolest thing I saw in the video.

 “There was, like, a slant, which wasn’t even really a quarterpipe, and Lurker Lou was just like ‘drop in, ya bitch!’”

So to kind of backtrack a bit, I know that you are originally from the cape, same as Bro, Delaney, Nickerson, Reid, etc. who were some of your early influences growing up?   DB: Ok, so the crew was mostly Jack Kelly, Brian Delaney, Buck Squibb… James Nickerson was there but he was lurkin at the time, conjuring his bag of tricks, and Brian Reid was rollerblading then but we got him to stop and now he skates with style like Stevie Williams so it’s rad. Then there was Tim Burlingame, Billy Campbell, Burt Morris, Wiley, this other dude Ryan Buckley, who all kicked all of our asses. These were the older dudes. They were the hellraisers, oh! and Nick Sherman. I looked up to Tim and Billy, I looked up to Tim as the older dude who was always killing it and had a really good bag of tricks. And Billy too cause he was super technical… So they would always give us mad wedgies, and throw us in trash cans and stuff, but it was at the time when that was kinda the thing. We were hazed, ya know. Timmy took me under his wing and took me on skate trips to Providence or Boston when I was like…15, or 16? And that dude was such an influence, to this day one of my best friends, and I really looked up to him. Oh yeah and Lurker Lou and Zered would come to the park and skate sometimes but they were like gods to me, especially after Vicious Cycle. Lurker Lou, and I don’t know if he’ll remember this, he was probably 15 and I was 7 or something, but he was actually the first person to like, not teach me, but TELL me to drop in (laughs) at Chatham skatepark forever ago. There was a mini ramp, and then a mini-mini ramp, and then there was, like, a slant in between, which wasn’t even really a quarterpipe, and Lurker Lou was just like “drop in, ya bitch!” (laughs). So it’s really cool that these people were all on the periphery, but now are just homies, ya know, we’ve all grown up.


  I was talking with Rojo, and we were thinking about how your style has changed a bit. From more tech ledge and manual tricks to, I guess I would say, a more refined, selective style. Is this something intentional? DB: I think like everyone, their style has changed, and this is maybe a 10 year span we’re talking about, and to simply put it, I think I just kind of grew up. I mean, in the Providence skate video days, Never Heard of It, and Tin’s video The Better Life, I was still coming into my own and really just figuring out what I liked. I was trying to figure out what worked for me. At that time, I liked to try really technical and difficult tricks. As I grew older I found that skating fast, skating with a lot of energy, and maybe not doing things technical, but really nicely, it was more satisfying to me. And I began to find that the act of skating is about movement, and I became more aware of how it looked, and how it felt. When I was young I was just trying to learn as many things as possible. I didn’t really have an identity so I dressed different, and then after time I kind of came into my own and just evolved, like everyone does.

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How long have you been living in Boston?

DB: I graduated in 2007 from high school, so I guess from fall 2007 until now, so how long is that? 7 years almost?

So do you want to talk about how the skate scene has changed over that time?

DB: Wowww, I mean it’s gotten so much better, I feel. The skate scene is so much more of a community. It’s become a little tighter. The city has gotten a little smaller in terms of skate cliques. People know each other a lot better but there’s all these different crews that have really come into their own. More kids have moved here, more kids have established themselves, and yes, a lot of people have left, but a lot of people have stayed, so you have all these groups that are…keeping…this city… alive (honks horn, yells at traffic). Yeah! I think Orchard Skateshop has really been a catalyst for that. They have been really proactive about that especially with the art shows that they set up. I think that has fostered a really nice skate community here.


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“Skating with him in person is like watching somebody float, and glide over the ground.”

I’m gonna make it hard but if you were to pick three skaters here in the city that are your favorite to watch, who would they be?

DB: Like people that are known in the city? DL: Yeah, that’s fair. DB: Ok…number one, I would say Brian Delaney. ‘Cause I love that dude, and I’ve watched him grow up, and I’ve watched him skate, and watching him skate is such a joy to this day because he has gotten so good, so quickly. I really love his style, and his attitude. Number two, total wildcard – Brian Leff. I have skated with him a lot recently. Skating with him in person is like watching somebody float, and glide over the ground. It’s crazy because, yeah, Delaney, technical, and super styled out. Brian [Leff] super styled out, but wild! He skitches cars, he skates backwards, he does double board skating, he skates any size or shape board. He has the most energy, creativity and positivity out of anybody I know in skating. The third person that I would choose who I back to this day and am totally inspired by is Tommy Wisdom. On top of his positive energy when I’m out skating with him, he is extremely motivating. The few times I’ve gone out skating with him I have done some of the most athletically challenging tricks I have ever done, because he’s really motivating! He is kind of like Guy Mariano in that he kind of disappeared for a bit and came back, and is almost way better. His trick style, and trick selection is on point. He is inspired. It’s cool to see somebody drop off for a bit then just come back and be able to switch heel over my head.

Now as an artist exploring different media, what are you into, and how you manage working on different projects at the same time?

Well my interests are film-making, music, illustration, and skateboarding. I feel like things generally happen in rhythms, they happen in waves. So if I do a lot of skating I might go home and want to write a song. Or if I am hurt from skating I would want to do a bunch of illustrations. I would say that it weighs mostly on my skating because that is the real physical outlet, and where I am able to get most of my exercise, but then with art it is my mental exercise. Not to say that skating isn’t mental, I mean of course you have to work out patience, consistency…what is the word…well. Anyway. In terms of film making I have a video I am working on for the Connect the Dots creative skateboard video contest through King Shit Magazine and Converse. I am working on directing and producing it. In the past I haven’t really had the opportunity to connect my fine art film making with skateboarding, so I think this is a great opportunity. And Every Monday I have a doodle or drawing that I post on instagram, and I am working on framing some of those. Another huge project that I have coming up, in the fall, is called Collective Creature. It is a series of video portraits that I am going to be doing of interesting people that I know and will meet across the country.  That’ll be in the winter when it’s cold. (California Dreamin’ plays from a duck boat next to the car). (laughs) That’s sick, duck boat…all the leaves are brown.  Wait. (song changes to Whisper Song by the Ying Yang Twins) Switch it up!!


 Dillon's part in Orchard's Stone Soup, as seen on Thrasher

Shout outs?

Shout out to Orchard Skateshop, they just got the video done so that’s awesome and exciting. Converse for hooking it up with shoes, which has been incredible. Hope to do projects with them in the future!

[youtube]   The Art of Skateboarding Demo at the Boston Children's Museum   dillon doodil dillon art 2

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